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    November 17, 2012
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this is a fox news alert. we're reporting live that the rockets red glare over israel. more than 170 rockets launched from gaza today alone. 500 since this week's fighting began on wednesday. killing three israeli civilians, wounding scores of others. far more israels would be dead but for the iron dome anti-missile system provided by the united states which we saw in action back in jewel. iron dome has a stunning success rate, shooting down about 90% of incoming missiles in the current fighting. it is the palestinians in gaza who are paying the price. at least 46 of them are dead including 15 civilians. more than 400 wounded by israel's relentless aerial and
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arterial bombardment. asme the assault wideness, the united states acknowledges israel's right to defend itself. the president on his way to the far east speaking today from air force one with leaders from israel,ro egypt, and turkey in a scramble to avoid further escalation of the violence. so let me welcome israel's council general in new york andc ask the ambassador now will israel invade gaza? >> well, the mandate that the israel defense forces we see from the israeli government is to remove the threat that w will be of strategic rockets. it a threatens life in our southern region. the government gave a mandate to remove that strategic threat. this mandate is not limited in time or scope. it's search a possibility, and
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obviously at this stage of the game we don't know yet. >> gaza, one of the most densely populated areas on earth, inevitably there will be more civilian b casualties. don't you worry about international pressure on israel. >> well, right now we enjoy a large degree of international le jet mlegitlegitimacy. the president expressed his support about e israel's right d need to defend itself. however, we are very concerned with the possibility of nbt innt people being harmed as a result of our action. the government instructed forces to act in order to minimize as humanly possible the loss of life and damage to property. >> can the prime minister help
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solve it or is he making it worse? >> egypt always played a constructive role in our region. as you all know, the peace treaty that we signed with egypt back in 1979 still serves as a strategic center for stability. we search value the historical role in egypt. at the end of the day, we believe both israel and egypt are on the same side of the conflict. hamas is the bearer of bad news for the f palestinian people. we know that hamas spent the last seven years since israel's pullout from gaza in 2005 in order to acquire more and more weaponry, notre dam in order toe more and more arms. instead of a blooming, prosperous community, they turned gaza into one huge ammunition dump, and this has to end. the way to end this conflict is obviously by hamas stopping targeting israeli innocent civilians. >> i hope there's a cease-fire. i hope it ends well.
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>> thank you for having me. >> the president will be giving a press conference about this in the morning. this is a fox news alert. paula broadwell, the jealous mistress whose anonymous e-mails lit the fuse that blew up the career of war hero and cia director david petraeus and deflected attention from the whole benghazi gate scandal was seen out this evening in washington, dc walking arm and arm with her husband. general petraeus remains out of sight the day after his explosive testimony on capitol hill about the deadly events in libya. inut a fox news exclusive to tel us whether there is any connection between the general's personal problems and his testimony concerning benghazi, his former spokesman, retired colonel steve boylen, joins us from kansas city. appreciate you being with us. is there a connection between benghazi and the sex scandal? >> no, geraldo.
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there isn't. good to talk with you again, unfortunately under these circumstances, but in my initial contact with david petraeus, he informed me that there was no connection whatsoever between what happened with his affair which ended about four months ago, by the way, and the white house which he had a great working relationship and benghazi or anything else, for that matter. he told me that it was a poor judgment, bad decision, and just a lacook of discipline on his part, that he deeply regrets for many, many reasons. many of them start with his family, how much he's hurt them, losing the job that he felt that he loved more than anything else as far as his professional side right now, a great job, and working with a great group of people at the cia. >> when did the affair start? did it start as has been reported in afghanistan when she was interviewing him there for her variousf reports?
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>> no. those are inaccurate reports, at least based on my discussions with r him very early on when ts started breaking, a week ago last friday. me that it had started about two, two and a half months after he had been the director of the cia, and again, ended about four, four and a half months ago. >> during the time i was with you guys, i never saw general petraeus alone. he always had you around him or another of his key aides. he had a staff, an entourage. as cia director, he wouldn't have any of that. was that one of the reasons he was vulnerable as apparently he was to paula broadwell? >> well, i don't know if it was that specific reason. i tend to think he may have had a little bit harder time adjusting to retirement. let's face it. he spent 37 plus years, since he was 18 years old, in uniform starting with evident with point
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and ending as a four-star general. he had known that his entire adult life. i think possibly he was a little bit down, maybe a little vulnerable at that point in just the right circumstances or if you want to call it the wrong circumstances prevailed, and he made a bad decision. he has owned up to that, the country has seen. he has taken responsibility for it. he didon what he considered to e the right thing which was to resign from the cia. right now he's going to focus on his family. >> is this his first affair? did you ask him or is this a pattern of illicit conduct that none of us who are huge admirers of the general ever suspected? >> well, this was something we discussed, and i asked him, and he told me flat out that this was the only time he has had an affair, and i suspect it would be the last time he would have an affair. he knows ho how much damage this
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has done to his family. this something i don't think he even really wanted to do. i think for somehow, some reason, really just known to him, it happened, and at this point, you know, everyone knows what happened. >> is it even remotely possible, colonel boylan, that he would have altered his testimony about benghazi because members of the administration or someone knew about this affair and effectively blackmailed him to tailor his testimony about benghazi so it would suit the obama administration? >> no. i don't think so. you have t to know david petrae. he would not have done that. in fact, i would suspect that if somebody had tried to black mail him or influence him a certain way, he would do the exact opposite anden come out and let everyone know. he's testified before congress numerous times. i was with him during five of those times, and he will tell it
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straight forward the way it is based on the information he has at that time. we know truth changes over time a little bit as you get more information. >> so you think that's what's happening now, he's just finding out more through the fog of war about benghazi? >> well, i think over time more and more information becomes available. i wasn't at the testimony yesterday. i don't have the need to know or the clearance to know any more, and he wouldn't have told me exactly what he said anyway because he doesn't divulge classified information. >> of course. >> so i have to leave it there, colonel. we're out of time. thank you so much for coming forward and speaking out to us exclusive. steve boylan, i appreciate it. coming up, ladies and gentlemen, a spirited debate over whether powerful people are predator or prey in these sexual situations. plus much more on general petraeus and the probe we labeled benghazi gate.
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five days beforehe it does legitimately raise eyebrows on the timing. >> my next guest knows both general david petraeus and colonel paula broadwell, his biographer and apparent mistress. hcolonel now professor peter monseur joins us from the campus of ohio state university. colonel, welcome. you again after all this time. i wonder how disappointed you were when the scandal broke. >> you know, i was extremely disappointed in general petraeus. i never thought in a million years that g he would engage in this morally reprehensible conduct. >> i don't mean to minimize this, but is this about adultery
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or something deeper and darker? >> i really think this is about adultery, about an improper relationship that he had with his biographer, and i don't think there's anything more than that. he assures me it's not about benghazi. >>es given, you know, so much at stake, was this a failing, you know, in this american napoleon, the most decorated general since eye seeye seneisenhower? >> he said he knew paula before. i went through a difficult transition four years ago when i became a civilian. you leave behind your comrades in arms, people with shared bonds and experiences, and you miss soldiers. when i discussed this with him over the phone, he said you know, that was it. he had a void in his life because of it, and as a result, he turned to the wrong person,
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you know. the person who made herself available to him to sort of fill that void. that was paula broadwell. >> yo wu have spoken with generl petraeus. how is he faring? >> it's tough on him. he's obviously down. he's his worst critic and he realizes that he screwed up big-time. those are his words, that his actions were unacceptable, that they were a breachis of his marital vows to a woman, holly, who has been very loyal to him for 37 l years. he just feels that he let his familyth down, himself down. he let the country down. >> i never met paula broadwell, the miss stress. was she a predator? >> well, i didn't see her as such. she comes across as supremely confident, of course, she's fairly attractive and physically fit, sort of the ideal kind of person that general petraeus would want to take under his wing, and he does that with a variety of officers, male and female. nothing's ever come of those
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relations. you know, she obviously had a huge agenda, writing a dissertation on his leadership style. at some point she realized she was sitting on a gold mine of information and contracted with an agent and sold it to the highest bidder. i don't know if that makes her a predator. it search makes he certainly mar aggressive and ambitious. that is to be admired in people. i don't know where she crossed the line. it was inexcluesable for her because she's married with two kids. >> what do you make of the love triangle or the love pentagon. >> general petraeus said he didn't have any interest in jill kelley. a communityf ambassador, someone who connects civilians with the military in the local area. seems likely that paula felt threatened in some way by jill kelley and felt the need to send her those e-mails, but i think
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there's more of that story that needs to come out. for one thing, i think paula broadwell needs to tell her side of thell story. >> did the general in his conversations with you assure you that this has nothing to do with the benghazi probe? >> yeah. he said absolutely nothing. this has nothing to do with benghazi or anything else. it's strictly my personal moral failings and nothing else. >> so just a personal tragedy, one oone that unfortunately tragically impacts the entire nation. >> it does. >> colonel peter mansoor. go buckeyes. thanks for being with me. our experts discuss the intersection of sex, power, and politics after this. new pink lemonade 5-hour energy?
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why would the raid on the lady's house just happen this week if this investigation has been going on for months? so i think the fbi has a lot of questions to answer. >> lots of people including my next guest obviously have serious doubts, serious misgivings about the administration's contention that thes president only learned aftr the election about the sex scandal that destroyed general david petraeus' career. he is congressman from utah. thanks for being with us. why does it stick in your craw that eric holder said he only told the president after the election was over? >> well, look. general petraeus wasn't heading up the fish and while life department. he's the head of the cia. if there's an investigation, a question about what he's doing in his personal life, i think that should come to the the president of the united states. he may not to choose to do anything, but to leave him in the dark is inexcusable. >> ik hear skepticism in your voice. do you believe that there is
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some misreception going on? >> what i'm worried about is that somewhere between the fbi and the department of justice, somebody didn't take this to the president of the united states. when you're the head of the central intelligence agency, that is one of the most vital positions out there, and if there's something that may have been compromising this person, i don't want to wait until the end of the investigation. i want the president to know at the beginning ofo the investigation. >> do you worry that the fbi perhaps is a little overaggressive in terms of seeking out the facts and circumstance the surrounding the affair? >> it's always a t legitimate question because when you start to get into the personal privacy, personal e-mails, we've got to make sure we don't overstep. again,. when you're dealing with the cia director, it's a little different than maybe most other people. because there's such implications for national security. i think a lot of questions, not a lot of answers. i don't want to jump to too many conclusions yet, and i want to focus on what happened and
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didn't happen in benghazi because you've got four dead people and people still in the hospital tonight. >> whatnd about congressman kins contention on friday that there was a change in the initial briefing that mentioned al-qaeda or mentioned terrorists by the time susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, went on the talk shows and had apparently been deleted from her brief. >> if that's true, mr. president, who provided that brief? what was in thatn information? it's not adding up there's a reason why two months after the attack we are still having more questions than answers. the white house hasha not come clean on this. they should come with everything and make it readily available. give some answers to those families and provide justice by capturing those people. >> congressman, thanks a lot, man. >> thank you. my next guest knows a thing or two about living in con st. pe -- constant peril when serving your nation overseas.
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he's the former administrator of iraq.. mr. ambassador, great to see you. how shocked were you when you heard about the petraeus sex scandal? do you believe it has anything to do with the various probes gate?enghazi >> i was shocked, obviously. i worked with general petraeus when he was in iraq and i was in iraq. the idea that he would in some fashion tailor his testimony to congress seems to me unlikely knowing the man. shocked by his personal failure, and i don't believe he tailored his testimony. >> i agree with you 100%. the man i knew would never do that. >> w look. we're all human and we all have our failings. when you're in a position of leadership apes general petraeus was in both military and civilian life, you're called to
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a higher responsibility. i think that's why when the time came, he decided to resign. >> going back to the substantive issue of benghazi, isn't it possible that the secret nature of the cia operation in benghazi complicated the administration's telling of the facts and circumstances surrounding thes attack? >> youes. that's a possibility, although it seems to me that by the morning ofe the 12th, the morning after the attack, everybody knew what had happened. even the press was reporting this wasan a secret annex, so i don't know exactly what they were protecting after that point. congress is obviously investigating this. there will be more hearings and in the eisnd we will know. wee will hopefully resolve the question as to why the aftermath, the statements by various officials including general petraeus afterwards were so confusing and contradictory. >> we need to be willing to call a spade a spade. we have a problem with islam i
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can extremism. we're going to see it next in syria. the administration is having a hard time getting past its teeth and out of its lips the words islam i can extremism. that's the big problem, not what happens in washington over the next few months over this particular problem. >> ambassador, great to see you. your work with wounded veterans has been wonderful. >> thanks for your support. up next, the intersection of sex, power, and politics. who is the prey and who is the predator? it should be a dynamic and interesting and provocative discussion. ♪
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security checks even if they're on the no-fly list. for your latest headlines, log onto foxnews.com. >> that'sr right. petraeus had an affair with his biographer, all in. it appears that the title of chapter 5, anaconda, may not referte to a ground offensive in afghanistan. >> already the tv specials about it are starting to hit the air. >> the cia rocked by scandal. its leader accused of sexual misconduct, threatening e-mails from the lover to another woman. faithful wife scorned. is america's security at risk? find out tuesday on the next jerry springer. >> before our panel debates that intersection i've been talking about, sex, power, and politics, craig has the latest on the
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ladies involved in toppling the man i call america's in napoleon. >> i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well. >> tampa socialite jill kelley, the other other woman in the middle of the shady affair that brought dow in cia director davd petraeus. continues too push political buttons as new e-mails sent directly to tampa mayor bob buckhorn revealed. this one shortly before 6 a.m. on wednesdayment bob, hope all is well. my kids are scared and need their home back. >> these are communities where power kind of speaks to power and the next thing you know these wealthy socialites and their respective better halves are very close with the other power ac sector in the community, and that's the leadership out of mcdill air force base. >>rv he lives in the tampa area
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where he hosts his own radio show. >> how does a woman with no security clearance get on escort escorted full access into these bases? >> because of the work she had done within the military community and search relationships she had developed with top level commanders here. that is not the norm. trust me. i have brought people through the gate at mcdill air force base on many occasions. it's not an easy thing to do. >> relationships, potent enough to get the sassy socialite to the white house three times this fall at the invitation of a mid level white house staffer she met in tampa where she sent general petraeus and general allen -- she asked them to send letters for her twin sister natalie in a custody dispute. she and natalie rubbed at least shoulders with other top brass and politicians like marco robeo
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and former governor charlie crist. >> do you know the kelley family? >> notou well. >> have you dated natalie? >> no. >> jill notoriously stayed in touch with general allen after he left tampa to assume canned d of all our forces in afghanistan. general allen now has to explain nearly 20,000 pages of e-mails with tshe comely mrs. kelley, some describe as explicitly sexual in nature. while the exact nature of her relationship with general allen and petraeus is in dispute, the emerging scandal has frozen general allen's nomination as supreme allied commander in europe. >> how does something like this happen? is it the celebrity status that these generals enjoy that makes them susceptible to inappropriate behavior? >> you and rallo have -- geraldo have been to these areas abroad. when people disengage from home life in the u.s. and go to
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deployed areas, it's a parallel reality. everything switches off. let's not forget that a lot of them are men who are of a certain age that are maybe in their early 50s to early 60s, and they are vulnerable and a susceptible like all men. >> four star general petraeus and allen are the highest in rank to get snagged in scandal. another current case involved jeffrey sinclair. >> 82nd air born commander, having untoward sexual relations with junior officers, you know, putting them under tremendous pressure to do all kinds of unbecoming things. >> how do you think these scandals will affect morale. >> convincing a bunch of young troopers who are 18, 19, 20 years old, hormones are flowing. they're deployed a together, mae and female, and they look to
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their most senior officers. this is what they see. it makes everybody's job a lot harder. >> i'm shocked, craig, that there's not more of this given the sexual integration of the armed t forces. women are everywhere now. they are everywhere, but something thater frank points o, it's over 550 generals. this represents about one percent of the fighting force of these leaders, so it's really a small percentage. >> our pal, general sinclair, really in a jam, huh? >> he's accused not only of a three-year affair but also of coercinghr lower officers to sed nude photos to him. >> not general sinclair, the commander of the 82nd? >> what's interesting is his wife rebecca is defending him. she wrote an op ed in the "washington post" saying that while she admits to the affair, she says that a lot of these charges are trumped up and she points to the difficulties of military families in this 10-year long war. >> just point to the fact that general petraeus swears to his
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best friends that he did not star t this affair with paula broadwell in afghanistan but only when he became a civilian here. i tell you. i'm starting to believe that jill kelley did not havep a romantic affair with david petraeus, at least. i don't know about john allen. >> wema don't know what's in the 20 to 30,000 pages of e-mails. >> i w know it's sexually explicit, some of it. >> it's triple a. >> thanks, craig. so now to our panel on sex and power and why men like david petraeus or john allen did anything or risking for everything for a bi bit on the side. we're joined by our dear friend, dr. victoria wilson, the owner of the new jersey center for positive psychology. she's sitting along side laura mcdonald, the new york based marriage counselor and the founder and president of lovology university.
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so doctor, why do men risk everything for a little bit on the side? >> powerful men risk everything for a little on the side because they have larger than normal egos. sense of a entitlement, and they know that their jobs are an aphrodisiac for many volunteers. it's hard for them to resist temptation. >> hard for the men t to resist the temptation? >> it's harder for the men to resist the temptation because you know, we are not monogamous by nature, and men, you know, go back as far as the cave man era where they plant their seed in as many places as possible. they're still having the urges of the of the sperm competition.
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>> do you buy that. >> absolutely. i think it's a combination of several variables. it's high tes testosterone, availability of these men and women, it's narcissistic entitle and stress, a lot of stress, and it's a form of stress management. >> what about, youem know, i've heard some cruel humor about comparing paula to mrs. petraeus, etc. is it just pure biology at work here, laura, a younger woman, you know. is there biology in play there, too? >> i think it honestly depends on the individual. you can't generalize all men. it depends on the person. >> that's a good question. i don't mean to interrupt you, but do more men in power cheat than like regular old guys. >> no, it's just publicized more. women cheat just as much. they just hide it more. >> so typically would a woman cheat with, you know, would she
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pick an a type personality or would she go with the pool boy? >> it depends on her physical attraction towards that person. it depends on who the person is. it's not -- i really don't feel like you can generalize just because you're in power you're more inclined to cheat. there's more possibility because there are more people who have interest in you. >> i think a lot of the men in power have a risk taking sensation seeking personality trait which overloads impulse control.f even though many men may want to cheat, those with lower inhibition will taket the chanc. >> paula broadwell is the biographer for general petraeus, i wonder how much she wanted to write herself into his history. >> that's interesting. she wanted to put hers in his story. >> that's an important point. >> much more with our ladies and
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gentleman, and then later, the libertarian fire brand ron paul. he's retiring from congress, and as you'll see, he's not going quietly. we'll be right back.
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>> after i haveex if you haven't had sex yet -- >> but they're continuing to have sex. why can't you just stop it. why don't you get a hold of
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yourself. i don't [bleep] everything i see. >> we're continuing our discussion about sex, power, politics with psychologist victoria wilson, marriage counselor laura mcdonald, and in los angeles, dr. cadell. craig's here, too. dr. ava, do you believe it's all about risk-taking? i have to tell you that in my experience with general petraeus, and i've known him for almost ten years, we you have two, three, four stars, when i was impressed, he balanced the risk with the reward very carefully. it would seem to me that this was way more reckless than anything i had ever seen him do, dr. ava. >> i agree, but you know, recently i did a survey on cheating for a book that i wrote called understanding cheating, and what i discovered was that most men cheat because they think they can get away with it. it gives them such a thrill, an
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adrenaline rush, that they don't think about the consequences, and most men, they cheat -- the baby boomers were the biggest cheaters, by the way, and they cheated -- they justify cheating because they wanted the kind of sex that they were not getting at home. >> why are we, dr. victoria, so fascinated withwh the sexual aspects of the story? it'sxu almost overshadowed the underlying scandal which is a profound national security importance, and we're talking about whether he did jill the way he did paula. >>bo well, there's a certain see of shock, they may be powerful men but they're fallible human beings ande we can relate to us. >> so they're more heim and revealed -- human and revealed and just like us. >> they're no longer powerful, strong men above the law. they're just like us and they have the same urges and make the
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same mistakes. >> we heard bill clinton famously had his office affair with a young intern who really was a child. i mean, his risk was crazy risk. i guess david petraeus was also as the director of the central intelligence agency for goodness, sakegoodnessgoodnesssg that you risk even the presidency of the united states of america, historic important significant post. you risk even that for a piece on the side? >> if you're not really thinking it through, yes. >> but is it true that some men, i mean, i speak now knowing, and you know, that i'm a decade clean and sober now, but you know, i'm trying my best to forget what happened before. to throw everything away potentially just for a little nookie. >> it depends. if it's thrown at you and you
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get the urge and you don't think about it and you go for it, yes, but there are consequences. >> who is it that said power is an aphrodisiac. it's a turn on. >> he's been controlling himself for 38 years. >> i believe that,t too. i absolutely believe that. when he tells his trusted people like colonel mansoor and colonel boylan that this is the first time, i feel almost sorry for him in a way. i do feel sorry for him. not in a way. he was a wonderful general. he was a wonderful director of the cia. should america evolve enough or have we evolved enough that we can forgive him and welcome him back into public life. >> absolutely. know montgomermonogamy is a vert standard in life. >> even for the powerful and the strong. thank you both, dr. ava and laura and victoria. up next, is gas price
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gouging, talk about changing subjects, getting a bad rap? ron paul things so. congressman ron paul is coming up. he just retired and made his farewell address. air
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address . >> new jersey had >> new jersey has a tough price gouging law. we have it so we ensure profit profiteers will not take advantage of people at their most valuable time. those who have limited resources, and those who desperately seek out fuel, shelter, and the basic necessities for them and their family. >> after a distinguished career in congress spanning more than 30 years, ron paul has decided to hang up his legislative spurs
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and return to texas, but as you might expect, the 50 feisty not going quietly and joins us from the russell rotunda in washington. glad to have you with us. i want to talk about price gouging and gas prices and you have onw that your mind in the wake of hurricane sandy. before i do, i would be remiss if i didn't ask you about the scandal being called benghazi gate by many. do you think, first of all, that there really is a scandal there or do you think this will sort itselfl out? >> well, it may sort itself out, but i think the real scandal is how we get ourselves involved in messes like this, and we get our people in danger spots. here we first help some people who didn't like their dictator, and we get pe permission from no to go in there and bomb their country and put somebody in
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charge. it looks like they may well have turned against our people and killed our ambassador, and i think we get ourselves into these messes that we shouldn't. >> are you disappointed in general petraeus? >> i'm more disappointed in identifier policies that allow us to get into these predicaments and people die over it. that's what bothers me the most. >> president obama visiting new york friday, touring the damage from hurricane sandy. one of the things all the elected officials were very keen on was the exploitation of the victims by either businesses or unscrupuloussi hustlerrs. had an interesting take on priceg gouging when it comes to gasoline prices, something that virtually everyone considers abhorrent. what is your take? >> well, my first gripe is that it's automatically branded as gouging. well, under certain circumstances prices go up. prices go up for certain
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reasons. to prevent prices from going up, that's called price fixing. this has been around for about 2000 years. it was known in the roman empire. one thing that happens if you don't allow prices to go up and send out the information to increase supply, you get shortages. when you get shortages, you get rationing. look at what happened. it makes no sense at all. it's so anti-market and anti-freedom and itnd ruins this and delays the inevitable. that's why they're still struggling to solve the problem of shortages. the market works. the most important time to have the market is in periods of crisis and when there are shortages and the market will adjust. people out of emotion say you can't have it. he's charging too much. he's gouging people. no. he's trying to alleviate the problems and if the prices go up, all of a sudden supplies increase automatically. >> even ifsu it's 10 bucks a gallon, 20 bucks a gallon? >> sure. the higher20 -- the higher they go, the faster they come in, but
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it would only be for a day because people would have the supplies go up, and once you freeze it below the market, the expand, and the problems are not solved. but no. the market will dictate. who is going to pay $20? nobody is going to pay $20. if it is, somebody will come in and automatically have a truck load of cans of gasoline with five gallons and they're going to sell them and all of a sudden the price comes down. it would only take about 24 or 48 hours to have the supply increase as long as you get the government out of thre way and allow the trucks to move. >> so is that why you're leaving, thell inability of congress to solve our problems? >> oh, no. that isn't it. i mean, i think they've had enough of me up here in congress. >> at least you'll stillou have your son to kick around. >> yeah. there you go. treat him nicely. >> are you going to run for president? >> oh, i don't know. i've never had a discussion with him, but time will tell. >> all right. so nice to talk to you,
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congressman ron paul, always engaging, always so thoughtful. i appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> we certainly wish him well on his retirement. that's -that's it for us tonigh. stay tuned for fox news for the latest on benghazi gate and on thee escalating violence in the middle east. is israel absolutely pounding the gaza strip today? president obama scheduled to give a press conference from he's flying at around 7 a.m. eastern time. meanwhile, enjoy the rest of your weekend. i'll see you on the radio and in social media. thanks very much for watching. goodnight, everybody. good sometimes life can be well, a little uncomfortable. but when it's hard or hurts to go to the bathroom, there's dulcolax stool softener. dulcolax stool softener doesn't make you go, it just makes it easier to go. dulcolax stool softener. make yourself comfortable.
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